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Subject: [lojban] Re: Something Wittgenstein wrote ...
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--- Jorge Llambías <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 4/22/05, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.hn.org>
> wrote:
> > On Friday 22 April 2005 17:37, Jorge Llambías
> wrote:
> > > On 4/21/05, Ryan Gray,
> <ryanpatgray@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Whether or not you agree or disagree with
> Wittgenstein or the people
> > > > he is mentioning, how would one say:
> "after death a timeless state
> > > > will begin", or: "at death a timeless
> state begins" in Lojban
> > >
> > >   ba/ca lo nu morsi kei lo temcau tcini cu
> cfari
> > 
> > I would say: {lo nu mrobi'o cu krasi lo
> temcau tcini}.
> 
> Or even {lo nu morsi cu temcau tcini}.
> 
Well, {tcini} is less likely than {fasnu} to
imply time, so this is at least not inherently a
contradiction.  But, of course, x's being dead is
timeless only from x's point of view; to the
living x's being dead continues on from x's
death.  On the other hand, "timeless" often just
means "doesn't end" and that is true of one's
being dead -- so long as time doesn't end anyhow.