From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Apr 06 16:48:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 47317 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 23:48:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m20.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2005 23:48:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 23:48:42 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DJKGH-0007Ev-KH for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:48:41 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJKFz-0007EX-9Z; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:48:26 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DJKFn-0007ED-K4 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:48:11 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DJKFn-0007E6-Hu for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:48:11 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 16:48:11 -0700 Message-ID: <20050406234811.GC2746@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <425444C8.9080601@thestonecutters.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <425444C8.9080601@thestonecutters.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9775 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Hintikka on Quantifier Scope X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24131 On Wed, Apr 06, 2005 at 04:21:28PM -0400, 2 = 3 wrote: > "Here we are beginning to see the whole horror of Frege's mistake. > The notation he introduced (like the later notation of Russell and > Whitehead) arbitrarily rules out certain perfectly possible > patterns of dependence and independence between quantifiers or > between connectives and quantifiers." > > http://www.hf.uio.no/filosofi/njpl/vol1no2/revolution/revolution.pdf I don't suppose there's a gentler version? He completely lost me at "It is intuitively obvious what is meant by such formulas as" on the second page. (in particular, I have no idea what the "V-like-thing slash for-all x" construction means). Alternatively, you could just tell us why we care? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/