From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Apr 07 11:27:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 22561 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2005 18:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 7 Apr 2005 18:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Apr 2005 18:27:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DJbii-0004N2-0P for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:27:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJbhu-0004Lb-Iy; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:26:28 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DJbhj-0004LS-6X for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:26:11 -0700 Received: from web81308.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.83]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DJbhg-0004KT-Re for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:26:11 -0700 Message-ID: <20050407182537.43098.qmail@web81308.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [65.69.48.37] by web81308.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 11:25:37 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 11:25:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9781 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: Hintikka on Quantifier Scope X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24137 --- Jorge Llambías wrote: > On Apr 6, 2005 9:19 PM, John E Clifford > wrote: > > > http://www.hf.uio.no/filosofi/njpl/vol1no2/revolution/revolution.pdf > > > > Oh, that Jaako! What a card! He is > technically > > right, of course, > > I can't figure out how: > > (1) AxEyAz(Eu/Ax) S(x,y,z,u) > > differs from: > > (2) EuAxEyAz S(x,y,z,u) > > They seem equivalent to me. Any hints? > > mu'o mi'e xorxes Eu does depend on Az, just not on Ax