Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:29:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DL0qo-0004aZ-IG for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:29:22 -0700 Received: from n9a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.43]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DL0qc-0004ZQ-Ut for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:29:22 -0700 Received: from [66.218.66.59] by n9.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2005 15:28:33 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.28] by mailer8.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2005 15:28:33 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12278 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m22.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Apr 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web31312.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.198.107) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2005 15:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 5038 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Apr 2005 15:28:31 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=EYVTYFXU5AEhHtrGLN0pO24rXlwJWvSaJaicB6lOEpETZPFGF8D3RexforkAtgqceZx1j/yOKc18D/uXRstZIRY31ENf2DFSJPYmZku4myu7gjFATc/7eRFJed14YTOl0AZpPwtSGS/6n6ND0vmyczbeCIxFKR8O9iQgs9FvVcg= ; Message-ID: <20050411152831.5036.qmail@web31312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web31312.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:28:31 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: 6667 X-Originating-IP: 68.142.198.107 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: {X1 selbri X2} = {X2 se selbri X1}? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9811 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1474 Lines: 51 > Well, from the point of view of Tom, Mary may look > beautiful for some > purpose, without Mary doing anything. Someone may > seem > perfect for > something without doing anything in particular. >>from the point of view of Tom<< 1. Mary and Tom are arguments of {tavla} (not {melbi}), it is not said what are arguments of {melbi}, i.e. it is not clear for whom it is beautiful. >>beautiful for some purpose<< 2. {melbi} should be related with {tavla}, if I say {la tam. melbi tavla la meris.} it means that Tom is beautiful as speaker, or may be that speech of Tom is beautiful, but it does not mean that Tom has beautiful face, for example. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/