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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: na'e selbri1 selbri2 = (na'e selbri1) selbri2 ?
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On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Opi Lauma wrote:

>
>> Short scope, so (non fast) talk.
>
> And what I need to do if I want to make negation of
> two selbri, i.e. na'e (selbri1 selbri2), non (fast
> talk), for example?

As I wrote in my last email, see the link :

http://ptolemy.tlg.uci.edu/~opoudjis/lojbanbrochure/lessons/less12voc.html

The solution is to use {ke} for grouping tanru (phrase compounds) :

mi na'e ke sutra tavla ke'e do

--
mi'e .ian.xek.