From opi_lauma@yahoo.com Wed Apr 06 07:59:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 31472 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2005 14:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m13.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Apr 2005 14:59:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.198.102) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Apr 2005 14:59:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 63694 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Apr 2005 14:59:11 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=OTJ3P2awanyx5uEPazkd0jhMrrOXWOKcPD7J8ITIVLR19WTfk/8fGAsV3KAxqhb7PZiBWqJh+hoI3xv5Rgz6Kyr0Pv7uusLItMA03D8gXb6V6EW84HbEx6FpHZ1G6P2JI9lgH3HdYZPRAlYVvIIJvOs83HkP+Jac5vVhoECkhJM= ; Message-ID: <20050406145911.63692.qmail@web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web31307.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Apr 2005 07:59:11 PDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 07:59:11 -0700 (PDT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Originating-IP: 68.142.198.102 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma Subject: Re: {X1 selbri X2} = {X2 se selbri X1}? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=216990827 X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24128 I am not native English speaker. Can you pleas explain me what does it mean "to be talked to by". Is it passive from "to talk" (not only grammatically but also by meaning). I mean is {X1 talks to X2} equivalent to {X2 is talked to by X1} by meaning. Does {X1 talks to X2} mean that {X2 is "hearing" and "understanding/trying to understand" X1}? Does {X2 is talked to by X1} means the same, i.e. {X2 is "hearing" and "understanding/trying to understand" X1}. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com