From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Apr 26 05:25:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 87221 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2005 12:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 26 Apr 2005 12:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2005 12:25:22 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DQP7x-0007yS-M6 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:25:22 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQP7O-0007y0-Dp; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:24:48 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DQP6Z-0007xZ-3T for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:23:55 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.202]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DQP6T-0007xJ-62 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:23:54 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1892398wri for ; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.15.76 with SMTP id 76mr2569481wro; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2005 05:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605042605236a63e04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:23:12 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20050426110430.84090.qmail@web32115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050426110430.84090.qmail@web32115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9874 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: {xu} - question. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24243 On 4/26/05, Opi Lauma wrote: > Is it right that {mi vecnu ti xu ta}, implies that {mi > vecnu zo'e ta} is thru and I just want to know what is > {zo'e}, or more precisely I even have a supposition > about {zo'e}, I think that (it is/may be) {ti}? mi vecnu ti ta I sell this one to that one. xu mi vecnu ti ta Do I sell this one to that one? mi vecnu ti xu ta Do I sell THIS ONE to that one? mi vecnu ti ta xu Do I sell this one to THAT ONE? mi xu vecnu ti ta Do *I* sell this one to that one? mi vecnu xu ti ta Do I SELL this one to that one? {xu} always asks for a yes/no answer. The position of xu serves to focus on one element which is the one that needs confirmation. To ask what is it that I sell, you'd need another question: mi vecnu ma ta What do I sell to that one? mi vecnu ti noi mo ku'o ta What is this which I sell to that one? mu'o mi'e xorxes