From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Apr 22 13:18:19 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28602 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2005 20:18:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2005 20:18:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2005 20:18:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4bP-0006Qq-7D for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:18:15 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4b6-0006NU-EX; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:18:07 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4aX-0006MP-N7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:17:21 -0700 Received: from root by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DP4aX-0006Lu-5M for lojban-in@lojban.org; Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:17:21 -0700 Resent-From: root@chain.digitalkingdom.org Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:17:21 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: <20050422201721.GH24327@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Resent-To: lojban-in@lojban.org X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 44567 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2005 15:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Apr 2005 15:43:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web32113.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.207.127) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2005 15:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 55854 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Apr 2005 15:43:51 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Message-ID: <20050421154351.55852.qmail@web32113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web32113.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:43:51 PDT Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 08:43:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:17:21 -0700 Resent-Sender: nobody X-archive-position: 9853 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: root@chain.digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.2 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Opi Lauma From: Opi Lauma Reply-To: root@chain.digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] {x1 x2 = x2 co x1}? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24223 coi I would like to ask new question. Is it right that {selbri1 selbri2} = {selbri2 co selbri1}? For example it should be right if selbri1 = {cmalu} and selbri2 = {ckule}. {cmalu ckule} = {ckule co cmalu}, isn't? However, I am not sure that {nanla ckule} = {ckule co nanla}. I have supposition, that if we divide selbri by classes which will satisfy different rules of transformation we will get classes which will correspond to substantive, verbs and adjective. For example {cmalu} and {nanla} should belong to different classes because the first of them sutisfy {x1 x2 = x2 co x1} and the second one does not. So, may be lojban also has different part of speech (however not explicitly). May be this parts come not from grammar but from meaning? mu'o mi'e .opilaumas __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com