From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Apr 28 06:47:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 26009 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2005 13:47:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m17.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 Apr 2005 13:47:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2005 13:47:28 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9MV-0005cr-UY for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:47:27 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9M8-0005bd-R0; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:47:09 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9Lw-0005bP-Nr for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:46:52 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DR9Lq-0005b5-Py for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:46:52 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so643175wri for ; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.120.9 with SMTP id s9mr739821wrc; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 28 Apr 2005 06:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560504280646259e8685@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 10:46:11 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20050428132810.46531.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050428132810.46531.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9884 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: "zo'e" for selbri. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24253 On 4/28/05, John E Clifford wrote: > > co'e > > > That is appropriately unspecified but not quite > the "obvious or indifferent" force of {zo'e}. > Possibly {go'i}, which repeats the previous bridi > (or, since it can be modified in various ays, > selbri) comes closer. But it is a bit too > precise (informative). Nothing seem to match > {zo'e} more exactly -- and we don't have the > luxury of a blank (which best matches {co'e}). A blank selbri is grammatical for the main bridi, though not for subordinate bridi. {go'i} matches {ri}, and {co'e} matches {zo'e}. I'm not sure I understand what you say {co'e} lacks, but then we don't seem to agree about {zo'e} in the first place anyway so that's not surprizing. mu'o mi'e xorxes