From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Apr 04 15:49:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 20557 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2005 22:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Apr 2005 22:49:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Apr 2005 22:49:23 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DIaNm-0002hx-7E for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:49:22 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.44) id 1DIaNH-0002hO-9s; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:48:55 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:48:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DIaN5-0002h0-Ig for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:48:39 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.44) id 1DIaN5-0002gt-GM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:48:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:48:39 -0700 Message-ID: <20050404224839.GG2746@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <200503181907.12189.phma@phma.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200503181907.12189.phma@phma.hn.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9764 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -5.4 (-----) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: SE with conjunctions X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24120 On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 07:07:11PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > SE is grammatical with both logical and non-logical conjunctions, > but the only usage mentioned in the refgram is {se} with logical > conjunctions, of which the only ones it makes a difference with > are {u/ju/gi'u/gu'u/gu}. What does {te ju} mean? Does {se} make a > difference with any JOI (I think it should with {ce'o}, {fa'u}, > and, if I understand it right, {pi'u})? There should be, but is not, a set subtraction JOI; that would also apply. {se fa'u} is Really Cool. Thanks for bringing that up. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/