From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 24 12:46:42 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 24 May 2005 12:46:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DafMI-0003fW-Gl for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:46:34 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DafMI-0003fP-67 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 24 May 2005 12:46:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:46:34 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: railgun Message-ID: <20050524194634.GP2534@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <1116961637.9031.0.camel@localhost> <20050524193841.44497.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050524193841.44497.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i From: Robin Lee Powell X-archive-position: 10032 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On Tue, May 24, 2005 at 12:38:41PM -0700, John E Clifford wrote: > So, I shouldn't answer your questions? > > Getting back to the issue, then, in the long word for "gun", all > of the places come from {cecla} and {xarci}. The use of {jinme} > for the bullets is either superfluous or inaccurate (if you think > that all bullets are metal, then it is the one, if you accept, > say, ceramic bullets, the other). *boggle* jinme is in there to *distinguish* bullets that are only used to fire metal bullets from other types, such as those that fire ceramic or rubber bullets. So it is neither superfluous nor inaccurate. > If you need to distinguish from other projecting weapons, then > guns are the ones that are 1) tubular and 2) work by explosions, > i.e., a sudden expansion of a fluid, A *fluid*? Ok, umm, you've just made it clear that you don't know how guns work. Unless, perhaps, you mean for the expanding gasses to be considered a fluid? However, what you just said does *not* distinguish "guns that fire metal bullets" from BB guns or air guns or paint guns, and hence is utterly useless for my needs. Lojban allows having more than one word depending on one's needs, you know. > {xukmi} enters very incidentally into the picture (puffs have > priority). Perhaps you have a different sense of xukmi than I do; I'm using xukmi to refer to the explosive substance, i.e. the stuff that in English is called "gunpowder". -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/