From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat May 28 14:41:04 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 2725 invoked from network); 28 May 2005 21:41:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 28 May 2005 21:41:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 May 2005 21:41:03 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Dc91w-0007Vt-3X for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:39:40 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Dc91O-0007VS-Ur; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:39:09 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 28 May 2005 14:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Dc91D-0007V0-7W for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:38:55 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Dc91B-0007Us-0f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:38:55 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so1183361wri for ; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.82.13 with SMTP id f13mr981362wrb; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.29 with HTTP; Sat, 28 May 2005 14:40:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c16050528144064a345d6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:40:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <4298AA54.2090205@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10079 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Adam COOPER From: Adam COOPER Reply-To: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: zoi. ky. dansk ky. .e zoi. ky. Byelorussian ky. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=Pf9sFlzFn1O_kgBV0ewa-1mzVtkfzCoc3DRaqbmuK_ePZBvlJw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24449 On 5/28/05, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > On Sat, 28 May 2005, Aleksej R. Serdyukov wrote: > > > How to say "Danish language"? "Byelorussian language"? > > No words are established for these at the moment. Jbovlaste lists > "danmark" for Denmark, and "blabruk" for Belarus, but nothing for the > corresponding languages. > > I suppose someone will coin cmene or fu'ivla for the languages when they > are needed. In the latter case, the place structure will be something like > "x1 is Danish in aspect x2", so that one needs to further specify that it > is the Danish language one is referring to (as opposed to the Danish > country, a Danish person, or even a Danish sausage). I've been partial to fu'ivla along the following lines: Dane: natmrdana x1 is a Dane Danish: bangrdana x1 is Danish-language used by x2 to express x3 Denmark: gugdrdana x1 is Denmark or something like that.