From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Thu May 05 06:21:51 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgIR-0005aD-SM for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:43 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgIQ-0005a0-JB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:43 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so672313wri for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=W88cC4Uyw4WSDPDk2vRvRO9voGrEnOb0wl5P8LWntl2QOqzSS6AaGaLRaDfsZTerlxlegPPDzIbiYJtIKMVS4+jOPKUvZ3gllADa++XOm6a6jyBxOqmgqU+EwKNFTMRWdfaz9HSVlk/Jr4TM/Fuz7HUTatdSZF8Gh8zxWztD5Ls= Received: by 10.54.144.12 with SMTP id r12mr162299wrd; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605050506213e9ea4c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:11 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: .aunai and .a'unai In-Reply-To: <12d58c160505050608ee83a55@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f305050416391251a54d@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160505050608ee83a55@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9931 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 5/5/05, Adam COOPER wrote: > Not having thought about this before, I posit that it might be helpful to > think of 'desire' not as the noun, but rather along the lines of the > auxiliary verb 'want'. If you don't want to do something, you're reluctant > to do it. Hence: > > {.au mi klama le zdani be le mi rirni} > {.au nai mi klama le zdani be le mi rirni} > > Maybe 'inclination' would be a better gloss than 'desire'. Yes, that works when the speaker is the agent of the bridi tagged with {au}, but in the general case the speaker need not even be a participant. mu'o mi'e xorxes