From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue May 17 11:09:25 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 17 May 2005 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DY6VJ-0006lg-On for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:09:17 -0700 Received: from n2a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.36]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DY6VH-0006kU-CS for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 17 May 2005 11:09:17 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=ahcKTZCnjvXcUP1FpoeWPrFvpzIi7E4G3FZo/b/KSegXgkNTfjpjiF+sYpepzrfEuavg/BftGJICW6qzts55VXW0rbE8l/Gr/ESeW0haAEpSrDJKFlu/ecal4PeLZGuj; Received: from [66.218.69.5] by n2.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2005 18:08:31 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.36] by mailer5.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2005 18:08:31 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: bwirick@calpoly.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71485 invoked from network); 17 May 2005 18:08:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 17 May 2005 18:08:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n17a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.46) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2005 18:08:26 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n17.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2005 18:07:32 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.82] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 May 2005 18:07:32 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200505162218.j4GMIhTd010112@mole.e-mol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.46 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 65.169.45.251 From: "brandon_wirick" X-Yahoo-Profile: brandon_wirick MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:07:30 -0000 Subject: [lojban] Re: Unique Names Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 9954 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: bwirick@calpoly.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list What you say is perfect, Matt. For a convention like this to work, it should be unofficial but not necessary to explain every time one uses it. When we are finally able to talk to our computers using Lojban, they should attempt to figure out the cmene we use, (making use of the Semantic Web of course) but if nothing comes up, they should not throw errors. If I say to my computer, "le gerku pe la rem.xeltyn.paris. mi ba'e batci," it should look up "rem.xeltyn.paris." according to the convention, and if it finds something, sweet, but if not, no biggie. Also, if it finds something, (as long as it parses no other cmene which end in ".paris.," all references to just "la paris." (or "la xeltyn.paris.") would refer to the same person. The only place where this might need some semi-official help from LLG or something is if a computer tries to parse a name without a top-level domain, e.g. "la mykfarlein.set.," in which case it should go through the popular TLDs looking for "mykfarlein.," but where could it get a list of TLDs? A link off of lojban.org? A site with which all TLDs register? Perhaps just the TLDs that have been used so far? Any thoughts, anyone? --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Matt Arnold wrote: > This would be rejected by some people if they felt you were proposing an addition to the language, imposing constraints on speakers which we don't want the language to impose, but I don't see it as a change to the language itself. Were this registry to be successful, it would be no more than a cultural phenomenon specific to Lojban-speaking culture. When you feel the time is right you should launch the service on the web just like you'd launch any English-language name registry, and see if people want to use it. But keep it free of the impression that it's built-in to Lojban. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/