From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed May 04 12:36:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 56927 invoked from network); 4 May 2005 19:36:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 May 2005 19:36:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 May 2005 19:36:29 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTPfY-0003pq-Sb for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:36:28 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DTPez-0003p9-Q1; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTPen-0003ow-4I for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:41 -0700 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTPen-0003op-21 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 12:35:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: <20050504193541.GA7298@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <67.4439b274.2fa9ef92@wmconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <67.4439b274.2fa9ef92@wmconnect.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6+20040907i X-archive-position: 9920 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: longest works in conlangs X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24293 On Wed, May 04, 2005 at 05:27:46AM -0400, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/4/2005 5:22:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, > Robin via ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > > > > Anyone know what the longest work in Klingon is? Or Esperanto? > > Esperanto has translations (and originals) of thousands of works, > as long as any natural language work. "as long as any natural language work" makes a pretty poor goal. Perry Rhodan is the longest natural language work I'm aware of, and I'm not likely to get anywhere near that, no matter what I do. > Klingon has no long native works, although translations exist of > the Gilgamesh epic and two works by Shakespeare: Hamlet and Much > ado about nothing. > > It's interesting that Lojban beats Klingon by a mile in this > regard, as I believe that Klingon has many more fluent speakers > than Lojban. Dosen't surprise me in the slightest. The problem is people's loose usage of the word "fluent". Klingon's vocabulary is *incredibly* poor. Much worse than Lojban's. I've heard of at least one parent(s) who tried to raise their kids speaking Kling but failed/gave up because there were just too many things they couldn't talk about. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/