From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu May 05 06:25:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 55046 invoked from network); 5 May 2005 13:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 5 May 2005 13:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 May 2005 13:25:15 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgIo-0005au-4v for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:22:06 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgId-0005aM-BE; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:56 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgIR-0005aD-SM for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:43 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DTgIQ-0005a0-JB for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:43 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so672313wri for ; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.144.12 with SMTP id r12mr162299wrd; Thu, 05 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 5 May 2005 06:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605050506213e9ea4c0@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:11 -0300 In-Reply-To: <12d58c160505050608ee83a55@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <737b61f305050416391251a54d@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160505050608ee83a55@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 9931 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: .aunai and .a'unai X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790 X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24304 On 5/5/05, Adam COOPER wrote: > Not having thought about this before, I posit that it might be helpful to > think of 'desire' not as the noun, but rather along the lines of the > auxiliary verb 'want'. If you don't want to do something, you're reluctant > to do it. Hence: > > {.au mi klama le zdani be le mi rirni} > {.au nai mi klama le zdani be le mi rirni} > > Maybe 'inclination' would be a better gloss than 'desire'. Yes, that works when the speaker is the agent of the bridi tagged with {au}, but in the general case the speaker need not even be a participant. mu'o mi'e xorxes