From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Sat Jun 18 17:56:14 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Djo6O-0003bS-Lt for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:55:56 -0700 Received: from root by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Djo6O-0003bC-BT for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 18 Jun 2005 17:55:56 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DjNKI-0004s3-Oq; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:20:33 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list tlhingan-hol); Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:19:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dsl081-049-171.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([64.81.49.171] helo=pinfu) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.50) id 1DjNIw-0004m3-Ff for tlhingan-hol@kli.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:19:31 -0700 Received: from relay01.uchicago.edu ([128.135.12.136]) by pinfu with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DjMZ5-00036B-RV for tlhingan-hol@kli.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 12:31:44 -0700 Received: from jrl-cat-bib-03.uchicago.edu (jrl-cat-bib-03.lib.uchicago.edu [128.135.55.79]) by relay01.uchicago.edu (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j5HJVoL0004008 for ; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <6.1.2.0.2.20050617141820.01a0aaf0@imap.uchicago.edu> X-Sender: sboozer@imap.uchicago.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.1.2.0 Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:31:48 -0500 To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org From: Steven Boozer Subject: [lojban] Re: Klingon WOTD: tay (noun) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 X-original-sender: sboozer@uchicago.edu Precedence: bulk X-list: tlhingan-hol X-archive-position: 10201 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: sboozer@uchicago.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list >This is the Klingon Word Of The Day for Friday, June 17, 2005. > >Klingon word: tay >Part of Speech: noun >Definition: ceremony, rite, ritual By itself, {tay} has never been used in canon but it is common in compounds: {chontay} ritual hunt; {Heghtay} Death Ritual; {muvtay} initiation, induction ceremony, initiation rite; {nentay} Rite of Ascension; {qutluch tay} Kut'luch Ceremony; {ruStay} bonding ritual ("the R'uustai"). On these models, others have proposed the (so far) non-canonical *{Darghtay} Tea Ceremony, *{ngaghtay} Mating Ritual and *{tlhoghtay} wedding/marriage ceremony. "Younger Klingons, while accepting their heritage and observing the ancient rites, see some aspects of their elders' behavior and beliefs as, if not obsolete, then just old-fashioned." (KGT 133) "While the conventional phrases used in some rituals are uttered in modern Klingon (such as those used in the Rite of Ascension, a ceremony symbolizing a young Klingon's attainment of a certain spiritual level), those used in a great many others are in a form of {no' Hol} (such as those associated with the {bIreqtal} [brek'tal], the ceremony in which the killer of the leader of a Klingon house marries the widow and thereby becomes the head of the house himself). In these cases, the phrases must be studied and memorized by the participants, then repeated back accurately. Improvising or paraphrasing is entirely inappropriate. Depending on when the phrases for the ritual originated, the words and grammatical constructions may be somewhat like or very different from those of modern Klingon." [KGT 11] There's a section on ceremonies and rituals at http://www.startrek.com/library/klingon_databanks.asp?DockingBay=rituals Someone (I don't remember who) suggested a pun derived from family, cultural, societal "ties". >Homonyms: > tay (verb) - be civilized Qov once made what I thought was an insightful observation about the Klingons: "Apparently while our definition of maturity is cities (CIVilization), theirs is ritual (nentay, Heghtay, muvtay)." Cf. also the verbs {SeQ} "be formal/ritualistic/ceremonial", {Hach} "be developed" and {'Itlh} "be advanced, highly developed". -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons