From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Tue Jun 21 11:27:04 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:27:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DknSZ-0007HS-12 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:26:55 -0700 Received: from n27.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.56]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DknSW-0007HC-26 for lojban-in@lojban.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 11:26:54 -0700 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=WXtioqzPHkC8ScyY8tB326VvDkvaaKZibL4KsrinE7x8gwCef3LxVTTm2yhixzMu5hgo5odIrW9ij6g7haHppGi78M/dObMknOwKKXj9RfEzF+B9PUqQr916JwRF9GE8; Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n27.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2005 18:24:21 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.31] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2005 18:24:21 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: deletesoftware@yandex.ru X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 28381 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2005 18:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 21 Jun 2005 18:24:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mx14.yandex.ru) (213.180.200.14) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2005 18:24:19 -0000 Received: from h115.keldysh.ru ([194.226.57.115]:38148 "EHLO [194.226.57.115]" smtp-auth: "deletesoftware" TLS-CIPHER: "RC4-MD5 keybits 128/128 version TLSv1/SSLv3" TLS-PEER-CN1: ) by mail.yandex.ru with ESMTP id S1782770AbVFUSYL (ORCPT ); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 22:24:11 +0400 X-Comment: RFC 2476 MSA function at mx14.yandex.ru logged sender identity as: deletesoftware Message-ID: <42B7EAEE.3070707@yandex.ru> Organization: Delete Software Limited User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: Matt Arnold References: <1119217594.8641.7.camel@localhost> <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> In-Reply-To: <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> X-Originating-IP: 213.180.200.14 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: "Aleksej R. Serdyukov" X-Yahoo-Profile: deletesoftware MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:24:46 +0400 Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban neography Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10228 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: deletesoftware@yandex.ru Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Matt Arnold wrote: > coi rodo, > A couple of years ago I read of Eric S. Raymond's Tengwar orthography for Lojban (http://www.catb.org/~esr/tengwar/lojban-tengwar.html) and it got me thinking about Lojban alphabets. I had an idea which I've been working on for a couple of years, to design an alphabet along certain principles: > 1. Each word would be written without the pen leaving the page; no dotting i's or crossing t's. A gap in the line would represent the period character, which is a pause. > 2. Unlike cursive, the baseline would be in the vertical center instead of at the bottom, so that voiced consonants and vowels would tend to be descenders, and unvoiced consonants would tend to be ascenders. How would it be to use on a computer? {se'i} I want an alphabet that would be both simple to hand-write and to computer-use. Is there an alphabet generator? I think it should have options like: - the smallest angle difference used (small to bigger: "-" or "\" or "|" or "/"; "-" "|" or "\" "/"; "-" "|" "/" with small inclination; "-" "|" "/" "\" ) - crossing possible - double-crossing possible - round forms - round forms crossing and double crossing - more complex forms ("S", "R" etc) - base inclination (90 degree, 45 degree etc) And not requiring solid continuous writing. To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/