From opi_lauma@yahoo.com Thu Jun 16 04:26:02 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 8055 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.142) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2005 11:26:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 80191 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jun 2005 11:25:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20050616112557.80189.qmail@web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web33410.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:25:57 PDT Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:25:57 -0700 (PDT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.142 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma Subject: Again {xorlo} and Wiki. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=216990827; y=-7N3rmOdPHNkB9zOs2S_3Ev6TCPCBZDc5oPJqpzda2n_-ljT X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24552 Hi, on the Lojban-Wiki I have found the following: A side effect of the above is that in xorlo, if you mean "one bear", consider actually saying "pa cribe". It's ever so much more specific. xorxes points out that to refer to one bear, "lo pa cribe" is actually a bit better; "pa cribe cu broda" means that exactly one cribe in the whole world brodas, which is often not what you want. We (those of us that have actually been using xorlo for the last few months; there are at least half a dozen active users on #lojban now) have found that context is almost always sufficient, however. And it is opposite to what I understood from answers on one of the my previous postings: {pa cribe} = {pa lo cribe} = “an bear”. and opposite to what I understood from lessons of Nick Nicholas: {lo pa cribe} means that there exists only one bear in the world. Where is true? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com