Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DfC7M-0002Lm-9u for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:33:52 -0700 Received: from n22a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com ([66.94.237.51]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DfC7K-0002LQ-SR for lojban-in@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:33:52 -0700 Received: from [66.218.69.4] by n22.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2005 07:33:46 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.34] by mailer4.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2005 07:33:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-email X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 97065 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2005 07:33:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m28.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Jun 2005 07:33:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.139) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2005 07:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 54238 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2005 07:33:43 -0000 Message-ID: <20050606073343.54236.qmail@web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web33407.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 00:33:43 PDT To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.139 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 00:33:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [lojban] Re: How to say "depends"? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10108 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Content-Length: 1578 Lines: 52 > That depends (heh). Which English meaning are you trying to > capture? At first I am trying to capture usual mathematical meaning. For example if y=sin(x) then y "depends" on x. However, I doubt about {fancu} again since in its definition there is no explicit place for argument x: x1 is a function/single-valued mapping from domain x2 to range x3 defined by expression/rule x4 If I correctly understand x2 is not argument of function but range of its definition, i.e. for the case of sinus it should be {-Infinity, Infinity}. It is also not clear how to emphasize that there are several arguments in function. Than I would like to use the mathematical meaning of "depends" for common life. For example to say that "Character depends on education". __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/EA3HyD/3MnJAA/79vVAA/GSaulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/lojban/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: lojban-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/