From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jun 11 12:15:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 42595 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2005 19:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m21.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2005 19:15:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jun 2005 19:15:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DhBSL-0003ts-8x for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:15:45 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DhBRf-0003sx-HM; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:15:06 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:14:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DhBRQ-0003si-A2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:14:48 -0700 Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DhBRO-0003sZ-3f for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 12:14:48 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DB3996852; Sat, 11 Jun 2005 19:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Mehendicancy Squad Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2005 15:14:34 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 References: <20050611110228.40598.qmail@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20050611110228.40598.qmail@web33409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-Id: <200506111514.34545.phma@phma.hn.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10132 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban for Beginners lesson 12 answers X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=IImxpVKU9P3887_mM33j6-5-7YwGe93C01T880w1enCDjBuDHA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24503 On Saturday 11 June 2005 07:02, Opi Lauma wrote: > I know how Moscow and St. Petersburg sound in Russian (some think like > “masKVA” and “sank pietierBURK”). And I think that correct Lojban names are > {la masKVA} and {la sank pietierBURK}, respectively. {la masKVA} is impossible. We've had a suggestion {la moskov}, because that's the stem of the adjective ÜÞáÚÞÒáÚØÙ. If the source language reduces vowels according to stress, which Russian does, I think it's okay to use the unreduced vowel sound when Lojbanizing. phma -- S Fa1>+/- !TM Ng--- M-- K H T-- t? AT++ SY Te- SC- FO- D P !Tz E++ L Am I Ha- hc-- FH+++ IP?