From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Jun 09 07:47:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 19577 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2005 14:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2005 14:47:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 9 Jun 2005 14:47:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOJC-00080W-Mr for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:47:02 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOIo-000803-Gu; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:40 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOIZ-0007zs-D2 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:23 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DgOIX-0007zk-8E for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:23 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so147943wri for ; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.32.15 with SMTP id f15mr390053wrf; Thu, 09 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jun 2005 07:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d1756050609074643100572@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 11:46:20 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20050609134124.20752.qmail@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050609134124.20752.qmail@web33412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10116 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: {lo}, {lu'o}, and {loi}. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=rrX47qJhKdkIZhhkO5xCdHW8XS9tjv0axIhl2dRs1V11vxiahw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24486 {lu'o} and {loi} are essentially the same thing, the only difference is that one takes a selbri and the other a sumti: lu'o ko'a = lo gunma be ko'a loi broda = lo gunma be lo broda In both cases, the referents of {ko'a} or the brodas are said to do something together. loi ci nanmu cu bevri le pipno Three men (together) carry the piano. If {ko'a} refers to Andy, Barry and Chris, then lu'o ko'a cu bevri le pipno says that they carried the piano together. mu'o mi'e xorxes