From opi_lauma@yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 01:30:23 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 50932 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO n6a.bulk.scd.yahoo.com) (66.94.237.40) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:23 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Received: from [66.218.69.1] by n6.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:15 -0000 Received: from [66.218.66.89] by mailer1.bulk.scd.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2005 08:30:15 -0000 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:30:13 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050623075306.82038.qmail@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 709 X-Mailer: Yahoo Groups Message Poster X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: groups-compose X-Originating-IP: 66.94.237.40 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-Yahoo-Post-IP: 141.2.216.130 From: "opi_lauma" Subject: Re: Supplicatory Model: "under conditions". X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=216990827; y=LHNCiNb8kSDQqkt58PTqAoB55TcBFG7c5pk6FAS8LIXlbUOq X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24612 --- In lojban@yahoogroups.com, Opi Lauma wrote: > > 2. The x4 of zgana describes those conditions that > must > be in place for the bridi to be true. > Usually, I think, one does not imply that filled > arguments of selbri are conditions that MUST be in > place for bridi to be true. It means that bridi can be > true if we replace given argument by another one. So > why do we need to think that zgana is exception from > rooles? So x4 should be understand just as "condition > under whcih" x1 observe x2. And it should not mean > that under another conditions x1 can observe x2. I wanted to say "And it should NOT mean that under another conditions x1 canNOT observe x2."