From opi_lauma@yahoo.com Thu Jun 23 00:53:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: opi_lauma@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 32166 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com) (68.142.206.137) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2005 07:53:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 82040 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jun 2005 07:53:06 -0000 Message-ID: <20050623075306.82038.qmail@web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.2.216.130] by web33405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:06 PDT Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 00:53:06 -0700 (PDT) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Originating-IP: 68.142.206.137 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 From: Opi Lauma Subject: Re: [lojban] Supplicatory Model: "under conditions". X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=216990827; y=GyCQg4HbYt6pLWjKb32lRXLowsr5_Yau1khbWY1qsRlc3aok X-Yahoo-Profile: opi_lauma X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24611 > 2. The x4 of zgana describes those conditions that must > be in place for the bridi to be true. Usually, I think, one does not imply that filled arguments of selbri are conditions that MUST be in place for bridi to be true. It means that bridi can be true if we replace given argument by another one. So why do we need to think that zgana is exception from rooles? So x4 should be understand just as "condition under whcih" x1 observe x2. And it should not mean that under another conditions x1 can observe x2. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com