From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Jun 20 09:12:55 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 56038 invoked from network); 20 Jun 2005 16:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m25.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 20 Jun 2005 16:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Jun 2005 16:12:54 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DkOtI-0003TG-4k for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:12:52 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DkOsP-0003SL-Og; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:59 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DkOsC-0003S9-2s for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:44 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DkOs9-0003Ry-TK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:43 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so763197wra for ; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.73.15 with SMTP id v15mr2761321wra; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.67.20 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d175605062009115da48f60@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:38 -0300 In-Reply-To: <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <1119217594.8641.7.camel@localhost> <200506201344.j5KDiLTd003997@mole.e-mol.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10221 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban neography X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=iApvNcoV-Htvk84PH3sT03Y4xHjzlP0yFKYhvc23ooY_q5ho_Q X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24588 On 6/20/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > 3. Voiced and unvoiced equivalent sounds would be upside-down versions of the same character. Since a voiced consonant can never appear next to an unvoiced one, you might try to incorpoarate that into the writing so that it is not possible to write them together. That would help people using the alphabet to remember the rule, which is often forgotten. Vowels and l, m, n, r would have to be flexible enough to accomodate both though. You could represent the stress on a vowel by inverting it, though you would have to change i or the apostrophe. mu'o mi'e xorxes