From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Jun 01 05:43:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 14505 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2005 12:43:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m24.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Jun 2005 12:43:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Jun 2005 12:43:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DdSYS-0002ep-Hl for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:42:40 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DdSXx-0002da-DI; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:42:16 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:41:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DdSXN-0002dK-TJ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:41:34 -0700 Received: from web81310.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.85]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DdSXF-0002cO-AT for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:41:32 -0700 Message-ID: <20050601124123.88730.qmail@web81310.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.88.37.184] by web81310.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Jun 2005 05:41:23 PDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 05:41:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: 6667 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10098 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: li ci mo lu'i ci da X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=qQ0ToxD8u_xubZdVQpsBkKRzCgFcUOeQNJaLSGLzDImJRvsc7g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24468 Wrong damned button! --- Kevin Reid wrote: > Hello. > > I mentioned this on #lojban IRC and rlpowell > asked me to ask this list. > > What's the appropriate selbri for "x1 is the > number of > members/cardinality of set x2"? > > {mei} is obvious, but does not have an ordinary > place for the number, so > can't be used directly for a sumti referring to > the number. There is a weasel: {sy xomei} allows the answer {li PA}, so what we need is a way to answer indirect questions: "x is howmany are y": roughly (but probably not exactly) {li PA du li xokaumei be sy}. Play with it. > > So far, I see: > > lo se zilkancu be sy. > > lo se klani be sy. -- what's the x3? > > da poi de vei mo'e ke'a ve'o mei sy. ku'o > > -- > Kevin Reid > > > > >