From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Jul 19 10:04:49 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94724 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2005 17:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m15.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Jul 2005 17:04:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2005 17:04:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DuvW3-0003cS-8O for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:04:23 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1DuvU0-0003Zm-2f; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:02:18 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1DuvTh-0003N0-LK for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:01:57 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.197]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1DuvTe-0003Mt-TM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:01:57 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 57so1239009wri for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.32.52 with SMTP id f52mr801477wrf; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.35.75 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <12d58c1605071910012257ab7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:01:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <200507161654.36890.phma@phma.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1657_32182972.1121792474124" References: <200507161654.36890.phma@phma.hn.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10282 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: adamgarrigus@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: Adam COOPER From: Adam COOPER Reply-To: adamgarrigus@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: squid ink X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=6knWJpqFqGQGrKx8J8FxVKerVB9G1zPNJ0Kzgb6yweQBgU1TXw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24657 ------=_Part_1657_32182972.1121792474124 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 7/16/05, Pierre Abbat wrote: >=20 > Can it be called {kalmari xinmo}? And can a squid pen be called {kalmari > penbi}? Squids have pen (their internal shell/skeleton) and ink, but they > don't write. Hm. The two senses of the word (in English) intersect because cuttlefish=20 ink, I think, was once a source of sepia. But I don't think that's enough t= o=20 justify use of {xinmo} here. How about {kalmari ximsmi} or {kalmari ke band= u=20 ximsmi} ? ------=_Part_1657_32182972.1121792474124 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 7/16/05, Pierre Abbat <phma@phma.hn.org> wrote:
Can it be called {kalmari xinmo}? And can a squid pen be called {kalmaripenbi}? Squids have pen (their internal shell/skeleton) and ink, but they<= br>don't write.

Hm. The two senses of the word (in English) intersect because cuttlefish ink, I think, was once a source of sepia. But I don't think that's enough to justify use of {xinmo} here. How about {kalmari ximsmi} or {kalmari ke bandu ximsmi} ?

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