From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Jul 16 15:33:28 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 75413 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2005 22:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Jul 2005 22:33:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 2005 22:33:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DtvDp-0007mW-VD for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:33:26 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DtvBr-0007lJ-LV; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:31:27 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:31:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1DtvBX-0007l5-Lk for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:31:04 -0700 Received: from [208.234.8.229] (helo=intelligenesiscorp.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1DtvBT-0007ko-LY for lojban-list@chain.digitalkingdom.org; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:31:03 -0700 Received: from zombiethustra (pcp06586041pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net [69.140.24.121]) by intelligenesiscorp.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id j6GMUu3X019717; Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:30:58 -0400 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <001601c58a0f$51da7120$cd7fbd43@cybert5042e076> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10279 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: ben@goertzel.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: "Ben Goertzel" From: "Ben Goertzel" Reply-To: ben@goertzel.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Transhumanism X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=0SsyavN27VvFNkd_vxBrkQaW-OoFcPPQDpPwcNL28gJrBjlgZg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24653 Hi, A smarter-than-human AI would have little need for any linear spoken language, except for the purpose of communicating with humans. On the "Research Papers" page at www.goertzel.org, near the top, you'll find a couple speculative papers I wrote regarding how Lojban could be useful for AI. So far I have not succeeded in raising funding for implementing these ideas, unfortunately. All in good time, though.... In the language I use in those papers, future AI's might choose to (or be engineered to) communicate in something loosely equivalent to what I call "normalized Lojban," in which sentences can be represented as mathematical tree objects. AI's would have no need for Lojban's "syntactic sugar", which serves the purpose of creating convenient linearizations of the mathematical trees that represent Lojban semantics. -- Ben > -----Original Message----- > From: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org > [mailto:lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org]On Behalf Of Ryan Keppel > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:05 AM > To: lojban-list@chain.digitalkingdom.org > Subject: [lojban] Transhumanism > > > Are there any others who see the link to transhumanism? A > smarter-than-human > intelligence would learn lojban quickly, and see its benefits > immediately. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.