From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Mon Aug 15 17:41:45 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E4pWL-0007rq-6O for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:41:37 -0700 Received: from hobbiton.shire.net ([166.70.252.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E4pWH-0007rh-LK for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:41:37 -0700 Received: from [69.236.86.232] (helo=[192.168.1.4]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1E4pWG-000JHZ-SP for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:41:33 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Message-Id: <243335eab8e1cd7c5daaa8da41b8421a@xahlee.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis From: xah lee Subject: [lojban] Re: tone of letter Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 17:41:34 -0700 To: lojban-list@lojban.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 69.236.86.232 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: xah@xahlee.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10380 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xah@xahlee.org Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list Power struggle is the background of the fact that rudeness is not welcomed. i hold grudge against the collective behavior of OpenSource and tech-geeking ignoramuses, that in their blind fanaticism might just be another disaster like Nazi or Mao. In my opinion, they have already caused wide spread harm in the software industry. (i.e. harass efficient and successful company while promote inferior ones that has a mom-pop imagery; producing vast amounts of lowest quality software; promote and produce massive irresponsibility ...) Because lojban people mostly consists of tech-geekers who are ignorant of sociology, thus i do hold certain grudge, and find some of the collective behavior of loban community questionable. I.E. Its logo masquerading as quality, and the slew of political-correctness or OpenSource-correctness sensibilities as can be garnered on its website. not to be particularly against the customs of this forum, but my tone is really irrelevant to the logo issue. To oppose me by playing antithesis of whatever i say about the logo issue, is foolish. Xah xah@xahlee.org ∑ http://xahlee.org/ On Aug 14, 2005, at 11:43 AM, MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com wrote: In a message dated 8/14/2005 5:22:05 AM Eastern Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > PS This message is not directed at any individual, and i have not one > person in the lojban community in which i hold grudge. > >  Xah >  xah@xahlee.org Perhaps you have no grudge against anyone in particular, but the tone of your emails about the logo is revolting.  It reads like an attack on all of us, despite your disclaimer. The insults ("morons") and foul language ("fuck", "shit") do not help you at all. stevo ☄ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.