Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 43863 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2005 02:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2005 02:42:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Aug 2005 02:42:33 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E72Ga-0002UK-6K for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:42:28 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E72FL-0002T2-EP; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:41:14 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E72Ey-0002Sj-SQ for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:49 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.196]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E72Ev-0002SU-RG for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:48 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so671488nzc for ; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.25.6 with SMTP id 6mr1341628nzy; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.6 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Aug 2005 19:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f305082119404d642179@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:40:44 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10419 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Chris Capel From: Chris Capel Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] lojban phonology X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=H2tjDtTcN9Ps0QR_9_GCbk29zgblcMPNy1JNjWyRlnRpYuYwKg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24798 Content-Length: 882 Lines: 22 Is lojban phonology as underspecified as I think? Or is there some restriction on the modification of consonant sounds in consonant clusters? English has a number of these modifications, and an English speaker might carry these over to lojban. For example, in the word {citka}, an English speaker will almost always pronounce the 't' not as a alveolar plosive, but as an alveolar stop. I'm sure there are other examples. Is this sort of thing to be avoided? Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.