Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 1027 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2005 12:54:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m27.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2005 12:54:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Aug 2005 12:54:18 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E3vWe-000116-Gs for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:54:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E3vV6-000104-0R; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:52:44 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:52:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E3vUk-0000zr-Ft for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:52:14 -0700 Received: from hobbiton.shire.net ([166.70.252.250]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E3vUf-0000zj-If for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:52:14 -0700 Received: from [69.236.68.69] (helo=[192.168.1.5]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1E3vUc-000FDs-4p for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 13 Aug 2005 06:52:08 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Message-Id: <4af03730f62826ebbb7939e31f4cd099@xahlee.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2005 05:52:03 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 69.236.68.69 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: xah@xahlee.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10327 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: xah@xahlee.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: xah lee From: xah lee Reply-To: xah@xahlee.org Subject: [lojban] lojban logo X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=603P-tfChns3yBBRj4jF3_j2QkJMl_pk521Wcyb-1irgjq_jXw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24705 Content-Length: 769 Lines: 30 i just want to voice this again: the lojban logo is really truly hideous. it makes lojban like a fucking joke by the OpenSource know-nothing star-trekking tech-geeking morons. I find lojban a significant scientific pursuit. But its logo, and now with the joe-blog look of the official website, really makes me ashamed to associated with it. If the lojban org cannot have a professional logo, please at least don't use a juvenile one. It is better to have no logo than that. Xah xah@xahlee.org ∑ http://xahlee.org/ ☄ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.