From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Aug 27 07:44:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 40534 invoked from network); 27 Aug 2005 14:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 27 Aug 2005 14:44:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Aug 2005 14:44:12 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E91uc-0002LU-5q for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:44:02 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E91tE-0002Dj-A4; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:42 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E91sw-0002Da-PV for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:18 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E91st-0002DT-6G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:18 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i34so129399wra for ; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.24.13 with SMTP id 13mr4371074wrx; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.66.7 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Aug 2005 07:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <925d17560508270742790f5a58@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:42:13 -0300 In-Reply-To: <430F624A.5070009@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f2fd4aa05082313582da5d6de@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605082314313432fb13@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa05082316284b2b3763@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160508240651591fb7df@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa050824101538967457@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605082411443d1e75a9@mail.gmail.com> <430E17E4.8070504@yandex.ru> <925d17560508260627655e83df@mail.gmail.com> <430F624A.5070009@yandex.ru> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10459 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban-list Digest V4 #181 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=8ki9ZImtONQPlyK1wfQghnjJcLjw2N_44hqoV6b8_tP2iaooiQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24839 On 8/26/05, Aleksej R. Serdyukov wrote: > >>Will {zai basna bu tcita bu} work to mark that? > > > > In what context? > > I'd thought that zai . . shows that, since this place, the text will be > using the alphabet specified by it? Not the text, just the lerfu that come after it. The alphabet used to write the text is not specified within the text. Alphabet shifts really don't have much use in the language. > > {zai} converts the following lerfu or tei-foi group into an > > alphabet shift, so you'd probably want > > {zai tei basna bu tcita bu foi} or {zai basnytcita bu}. > > The list says "zai" is a 2-word letteral shift. So does jbofi'e think. Yes, {zai} is the first word, and the immediately following lerfu or tei-foi group is the second "word". > It's an edited alphabet, isn't it? But what will you use it for? When would it be needed? mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.