Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 99705 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2005 19:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m33.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2005 19:30:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Aug 2005 19:30:42 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E4kfO-0002s1-Go for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:30:38 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E4keT-0002qk-JX; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:47 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E4keC-0002qP-6t for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:24 -0700 Received: from web81301.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.76]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E4ke8-0002qC-IZ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:24 -0700 Received: (qmail 26153 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Aug 2005 19:29:19 -0000 Message-ID: <20050815192919.26151.qmail@web81301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.88.33.134] by web81301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:19 PDT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 12:29:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4300EA30.2020409@online.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 10375 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: Loglish: A Modest Proposal X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=IJrNpo0fGWrExlH_hd5JvvXOhaK1vVd9pcBKW0PiEvrCp_pTsg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24753 Content-Length: 1343 Lines: 52 -- klaus schmirler wrote: > Jorge Llambías wrote: > > > On 8/15/05, Ben Goertzel > wrote: > > > >>As an example of the algorithms I described > in my prior mail, suppose > >>someone says > >> > >>"Ben murder chicken pliers quu weapon" > >> > >>This means that "Ben murders chickens using > pliers as a weapon" > >> > > > > > > Wouldn't you need: > > > > la Ben cu murder lo chicken lo pliers quu > weapon > > > > ? Otherwise, it might be taken to mean "Ben > is a murderous chicken > > using pliers as a weapon" or "Ben is a > murderously chickeny > > pliers-as-a-weapon" or "Lo! there's Ben > type-of murderously chickeny > > pliers-as-aweapon!" or something else. (I'm > not sure if names > > can be recognized as sumti in Loglish even > without {la}, or whether > > "pliers quu weapon" can be taken as a sumti > even without a gadri. > > You might also need to distinguish "chicken > quu animal" from > > "chicken quu coward".) > > I think the straightforward reading is Ben > murdering chicken pliers. Which pliers are some sort of weapon for something. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.