From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Aug 04 06:14:40 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 13593 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2005 13:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m32.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 4 Aug 2005 13:14:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Aug 2005 13:14:39 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E0fYP-0000tH-Sn for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:14:34 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E0fWu-0000sD-Qi; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:13:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E0fWb-0000s3-CV for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:12:41 -0700 Received: from web81303.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.78]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E0fWY-0000rv-ER for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:12:41 -0700 Received: (qmail 50074 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2005 13:12:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20050804131237.50072.qmail@web81303.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [66.143.141.46] by web81303.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Aug 2005 06:12:37 PDT Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 06:12:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050804030939.GI26615@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-archive-position: 10301 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: the meter is a unit of length X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=TASoWhXT_qtI3D4ekGVRapSAqkoBBHKVPo6AQ5uPyyUZDedQZw X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24678 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 10:10:23PM -0400, > Pierre Abbat wrote: > > How do I say this in Lojban? The obvious > translation, {lo mitre cu > > gradu fi lo nilcla}, means "something > measured in meters is a unit > > of length". > > ckilu ci'u scale > x1 (si'o) is a scale of > units for > > measuring/observing/determining x2 (state) > > lo si'o mitre cu ckilu lo ni clani > I know that it is what the glossary says, but can it be right? Is "is measured-in-meters-ness" (or "an idea of being measured in meters" really the same as "is a meter"? It sure doesn't look like it, but just what "an idea/concept of" means is not very clear. Is this the same as (taking it that {si'o} works) {lo si'o mitre se ni clani} Neither gets the "unit" part, of course. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.