From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Aug 23 16:32:38 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 94468 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2005 23:32:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2005 23:32:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2005 23:32:37 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E7iCs-0004WU-R8 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:29:27 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E7iBs-0004V4-TI; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:29 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1E7iBb-0004TR-Md for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:07 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.200]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1E7iBY-0004T0-RH for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:07 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id v1so997442nzb for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.119.1 with SMTP id r1mr5864110nzc; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.8 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8f2fd4aa05082316284b2b3763@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:28:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <925d175605082314313432fb13@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f2fd4aa05082313582da5d6de@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605082314313432fb13@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10429 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: brandon.wirick@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Brandon Wirick From: Brandon Wirick Reply-To: brandon.wirick@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: lojban-list Digest V4 #181 X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=60UzCGNfUvI1QzvHyNDVca_jd77Ekd61CSyCq4ZYU0998c-QDA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24809 > But notice that gismu and lujvo include stress > as part of their definition. {setcati} cannot be read as {setca ti}, > it is necessarily {se tcati}, because of the penultimate stress. > And you know that the "a" there is stressed because of the > space (or end of text) after {setcati}. That makes sense! > White space is optional as long as stress is indicated, > otherwise, the white space at the end of a brivla is > itself the indicator of stress and can't be omitted. That's > why I said {lekomEnlibazimakcu} was also a possibility. That sure is too bad... I played around with the options you provided, but they take away from the effect. I thought it would look cool to split it into {lekomenli bazimakcu}, but it lost some of its creepy power. Do you think I could get away with putting accents over the accented vowels rather than capitalizing them? I know it's not proper Lojban, but proper Lojban was not designed to look really cool in print, so I'm trying to forge a compromise. > Au contraire! Truly brave nations don't need to hide behind > strident colours. :) I suppose that as long as a culture is brave enough, any symbol at all could come to represent that bravery. Once other nations stop questioning it, you're set. But c'mon, a nation with no state, no land, no army (hacker geeks definitely don't count) AND a pastel flag?? I'll leave it at, "there will be challenges." To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.