From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Sep 09 13:18:47 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EDpKY-00078D-6b for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:18:38 -0700 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.206]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EDpKV-000785-Du for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:18:38 -0700 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i23so1276840wra for ; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:18:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hABGCPu4cj65mhkisNude6AKVuvX0cvLivgH4B+jQselH7gHPO0E+hCQuvMw+CrGMIeBRFnfnLtYHWJQwCfcUcZk4HnMug3h39EB+8TcMjpR/q0CkxZffUeg1N0n1nNzNhv1mh90Q5nwPZh9jqhMePHqYVWlniWlv3uexhtvJJ8= Received: by 10.54.22.25 with SMTP id 25mr537710wrv; Fri, 09 Sep 2005 13:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.140.6 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Sep 2005 13:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:18:32 -0400 From: Matt Arnold To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: detcartu la renonoxanan. In-Reply-To: <925d1756050909114649d4da7b@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5575_24687537.1126297112374" References: <925d1756050909114649d4da7b@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.8 (-) X-archive-position: 10554 X-Approved-By: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list ------=_Part_5575_24687537.1126297112374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hundreds of the rafsi serve double-duty as cmavo. Are you telling me they= =20 are off-limits for use in lujvo? If so, then what purpose do they serve as= =20 rafsi? I's like to try to use {masti} in a lujvo, but I think {pavmasti} means any= =20 span of time measuring one month. Does {pavmoi masti} mean first thing=20 measured in months? Does {pavmoiselmasti} mean first month? If not, how=20 about {pavmoi (some abstraction) masti}? Since I'm completely unfamiliar with the Zodiac, at first I was confused by= =20 the month names:=20 kanbyma'i goat-month jaurbeima'i water-carry-month fipma'i fish-month lanma'i sheep-month bakma'i cow-month matsi'uma'i fit-mutual-month cinfyma'i lion-month xlima'i girl-month laxma'i balance-month rebjukma'i tail-spider-month celma'i launcher-month But if no scientific distinctions separate the months as they do the=20 seasons, I suppose they are as good as any. Personally, I would like both= =20 the Zodiac and the number system to be valid names for the months in Lojban= . -epkat On 9/9/05, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: >=20 > On 9/9/05, Christopher Zervic wrote: > > I have created a one-page 2006 calendar in Lojban, which you may enjoy > > in all its pdf glory at: http://zervic.com/detcartu2006.pdf > > > > Print it out on brightly colored paper and affix it in a conspicuous=20 > location. >=20 > Very nice! >=20 > But... {dauma'i}, {feiga'i}, {gaima'i} are not lujvo. They are pairs > of cmavo, not very meaningful because {ma'i} is a BAI > meaning {fi'o manri}. >=20 > dau, fei, gai don't have rafsi, so you would need {pavnonma'i}, > {pavypavma'i}, {pavrelma'i}. >=20 > Or you could use the month names proposed here: > >=20 > mu'o mi'e xorxes >=20 >=20 > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.or= g > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. >=20 > ------=_Part_5575_24687537.1126297112374 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hundreds of the rafsi serve double-duty as cmavo. Are you telling me they are off-limits for use in lujvo? If so, then what purpose do they serve as rafsi?

I's like to try to use {masti} in a lujvo, but I think {pavmasti} means any span of time measuring one month. Does {pavmoi masti} mean first thing measured in months? Does {pavmoiselmasti} mean first month? If not, how about {pavmoi (some abstraction) masti}?

Since I'm completely unfamiliar with the Zodiac, at first I was confused by= the month names:
kanbyma'i goat-month
jaurbeima'i water-carry-month
fipma'i fish-month
lanma'i sheep-month
bakma'i cow-month
matsi'uma'i fit-mutual-month
cinfyma'i lion-month
xlima'i girl-month
laxma'i balance-month
rebjukma'i tail-spider-month
celma'i launcher-month
But if no scientific distinctions separate the months as they do the seasons, I suppose they are as good as any. Personally, I would like both the Zodiac and the number system to be valid names for the months in Lojban.
-epkat

On 9/9/05, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9/9/05, Christopher Zervic <zervi= c@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have created a one-page 2006 calendar = in Lojban, which you may enjoy
> in all its pdf glory at: http://zervic.com/detcartu2006.pdf
>
> Print it out on brig= htly colored paper and affix it in a conspicuous location.

Very nice= !

But... {dauma'i}, {feiga'i}, {gaima'i} are not lujvo. They are pai= rs
of cmavo, not very meaningful because {ma'i} is a BAI
meaning {fi'o = manri}.

dau, fei, gai don't have rafsi, so you would need {pavnonma'= i},
{pavypavma'i}, {pavrelma'i}.

Or you could use the month names= proposed here:
<htt= p://jbovlaste.lojban.org/wiki/calendar?lang=3Den>

mu'o mi'e x= orxes


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