From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Sep 19 12:19:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 71747 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2005 19:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m7.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Sep 2005 19:19:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Sep 2005 19:19:41 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHRB2-0007n6-Rm for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:19:45 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHR9e-0007mF-QT; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:18:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:18:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EHR9K-0007ls-3T for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:58 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.203]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EHR93-0007li-H1 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:57 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so228793nzf for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr143136nzb; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.36.8 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8f2fd4aa050919121768d577a1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 12:17:32 -0700 In-Reply-To: <925d1756050916175611735157@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <8f2fd4aa05091500343852e987@mail.gmail.com> <200509151546.42138.phma@phma.hn.org> <8f2fd4aa05091514151b3f6cb7@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa05091514431061dd5b@mail.gmail.com> <925d175605091518303b4b7bb2@mail.gmail.com> <8f2fd4aa0509151931507cdc42@mail.gmail.com> <925d1756050916175611735157@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10613 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: brandon@yrick.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Brandon Wirick From: Brandon Wirick Reply-To: brandon@yrick.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Wheels in my Head X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=UK0vlhd_ZWaddxer0fbFUyuOTiVUNDFMjakvx9wXmz40O3inKA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24996 This is great! I had no idea such work existed. My task will be difficult, however, to sensibly encode these syllables into sixteen bits. > With my morphology, the total number of syllables is 47602 (if my count > is correct, counting stressed and unstressed as distinct) so 65536 is > more than enough, but they don't pattern the way you have them. There > are 64 consonantal syllables (a consonant followed by l, m, n or r) and > the rest are syllabic ones. > > The syllabic ones can be divided in three parts: an onset, a nucleus > and a coda. The nuclei and the codas are the simplest: > > 19 possible nuclei: a, e, i, o, u, ai, au, ei, oi, á, é, í, ó, ú, ái, > áu, éi, ói, y. > (Notice that "y" is never stressed, and the nucleus can't be empty.) > > 18 possible codas: -, b, c, d, f, g, j, k, l, m, n, p, r, s, t, v, x, z > (The 17 consonants and nothing.) > > There are 121 possible onsets, which can be divided in four classes: > > 36 semi-consonantal: i, bi, ci, di, fi, gi, ji, ki, li, mi, ni, pi, > ri, si, ti, vi, xi, zi > u, bu, cu, du, fu, gu, ju, ku, lu, mu, nu, pu, ru, su, tu, vu, xu zu > > 1 (the apostrophe): ' > > 4 affricates: tc, ts, dj, dz > > The 98 listed here: > > (This list includes the 4 affricates, but they really don't fit the > same pattern. The glottal stop is included.) > > So in all we have: > > (98 + 4 + 1 + 36) * 19 * 18 + 64 = 47602 > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org > with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if > you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help. > > To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.