From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Sep 05 18:00:00 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63142 invoked from network); 6 Sep 2005 00:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 6 Sep 2005 00:59:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2005 00:59:59 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ECRoc-0002zV-4G for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:59:58 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ECRnO-0002y8-IC; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:58:43 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ECRn6-0002xw-N7 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:58:24 -0700 Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ECRn4-0002xm-He for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:58:24 -0700 Received: from MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r4.1.) id d.212.85eaf0a (25508) for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:58:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <212.85eaf0a.304e43a8@wmconnect.com> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 20:58:16 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_212.85eaf0a.304e43a8_boundary" X-Mailer: 6.0 for Windows XP sub 52 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-archive-position: 10498 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com From: lojban-out@lojban.org Reply-To: MorphemeAddict@wmconnect.com Subject: [lojban] gerzda (ambiguity in lujvo vs. in tanru) X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=XLdK7pqFSBwPNAKB06J-WZduWuC_uzy2RE3DAvZpfECpwrdzaQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24880 --part1_212.85eaf0a.304e43a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/5/2005 4:22:28 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.org writes: > I was under the impression that lujvo were vague, not ambiguous. A > {gerzda} is some sort of nest/house/dwelling with some sort of > dog-like aspect to it, right? It is not necessarily a doghouse as > English-speakers understand the term. It's tanru that are ambiguous. Each lujvo takes one specific meaning of a tanru and concretizes that single meaning. The other meanings of the tanru require other lujvo (or none at all). stevo --part1_212.85eaf0a.304e43a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message= dated 9/5/2005 4:22:28 AM Central Standard Time, ecartis@digitalkingdom.or= g writes:


I was under the impressio= n that lujvo were vague, not ambiguous. A
{gerzda} is some sort of nest/house/dwelling with some sort of
dog-like aspect to it, right? It is not necessarily a doghouse as
English-speakers understand the term.
It's tanru that are ambiguous.  Each lujvo takes one specific mean= ing of a tanru and concretizes that single meaning.  The other meaning= s of the tanru require other lujvo (or none at all).

stevo --part1_212.85eaf0a.304e43a8_boundary--