From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Sep 10 15:07:12 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 63719 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2005 22:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m35.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Sep 2005 22:07:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Sep 2005 22:07:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EEDV9-00042w-Rh for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:07:12 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EEDTh-00041W-TY; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:46 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EEDTP-00041N-Tw for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:24 -0700 Received: from web81302.mail.yahoo.com ([206.190.37.77]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EEDTL-00041G-NJ for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:23 -0700 Received: (qmail 75482 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Sep 2005 22:05:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20050910220513.75480.qmail@web81302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.88.32.165] by web81302.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:13 PDT Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20050910205343.GZ23157@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-archive-position: 10576 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: John E Clifford From: John E Clifford Reply-To: clifford-j@sbcglobal.net Subject: [lojban] Re: detcartu la renonoxanan. X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=XfrBDM8KFiSYh_Gqnt1QS79FhV8Arwy3zx9N0cWS3XYpzglEGQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24958 --- Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 12:37:58PM -0300, Jorge > Llamb?as wrote: > > On 9/10/05, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > > > > > > > See: > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, I don't understand something, > clearly. If the names > > > are numerical, how can we say which is > associated with Sunday? > > > Surely they are completely unrelated scales > about which no > > > direct comparison can be made? > > > > You wait until it's Sunday and then ask a > speaker of the language > > in question "what day is today?" and there > you have it. :) > > But... But... They're unrelated systems in > different calendars! > Couldn't the answer to that question change > throughout the year? What are? There are only a half dozen or so calendars in official use and only Western one is recognized just about everywhere. Of the ones in use, most have weeks and for most of those, Christians have figured what is Sunday (by checking with their neighbors who use the Western calendar if not from the local version of the name). Similarly for the religious day in other traditions. So, find out what number that is and all the rest fall into line. I suppose it could be that the names of the days of the week changed with the seasons or the months (the old Roman way for example -- although that didn't have weeks), but they don't -- the Babylonian model is too firmly set, perhaps. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.