From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Sep 23 09:38:26 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 23636 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2005 16:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.167) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 23 Sep 2005 16:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta6.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2005 16:38:24 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EIqYv-0002UX-F3 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:38:13 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EIqYJ-0002Ti-QZ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:38 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EIqY2-0002TU-6N for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:18 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EIqY0-0002TM-3Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:18 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k1so324088nzf for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.16.3 with SMTP id 3mr1028859wrp; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.142.3 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 09:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 12:37:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <925d1756050923091431a58d44@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5281_23512680.1127493434400" References: <925d1756050923091431a58d44@mail.gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-archive-position: 10631 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Matt Arnold From: Matt Arnold Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: Fly, Peacock, Fly X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=5rSvwRE2aBrNRcNs01GqU4PcniaQWldPmu6fBHjpBimadGqjjg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25015 ------=_Part_5281_23512680.1127493434400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 9/23/05, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > > mu'i le nu le'i se kecti pinfu > > for the poor prisoners > > I would say {lei} or {le} instead of {le'i}, since mathematical > sets can't really be free or not free. > I thought le'i meant "the set of those described". That may be enough, but if you want to be more literal > maybe something like {cu co'a zifre gau} to indicate that > they are set free and not just that they start to be free. > > ------=_Part_5281_23512680.1127493434400 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On 9/23/05, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
> mu'i le nu le'i se kecti pinfu
> for the poor prisoners

I= would say {lei} or {le} instead of {le'i}, since mathematical
sets can'= t really be free or not free.

I thought le'i meant "the set of those described".

That ma= y be enough, but if you want to be more literal
maybe something like {cu= co'a zifre gau} to indicate that
they are set free and not just that they start to be free.


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