From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Sep 02 14:28:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 51886 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2005 21:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 2 Sep 2005 21:28:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2005 21:28:27 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EBJ57-00013o-Ga for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:28:17 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EBJ3p-00012d-4T; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:27:05 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:26:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1EBJ3X-00012T-A8 for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:26:39 -0700 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.205]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EBJ3V-00012L-8G for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:26:39 -0700 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x7so492278nzc for ; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.25.14 with SMTP id 14mr1582807nzy; Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.67.6 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Sep 2005 14:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <737b61f305090214262772927d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 16:26:36 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10478 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: pdf23ds@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Chris Capel From: Chris Capel Reply-To: pdf23ds@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] lojban as an auxiliary language X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=RW_NnsoGJ2SahBUuYObMcw6UVKMhceSXWE2P46WNn6ntXhb9dQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 24859 Hi all, Does anyone have any thoughts about the propriety of using lojban in a situation where there is no other common language between two parties? If one party is living in the United States and speaks no English, would the effort spent learning lojban be worth the ability to communicate at all with Lojban-and-English-speakers before learning English well enough to really communicate? Or would these foreigners be better off spending all of their (limited) time and effort in learning English? I know that English is much more idomatic, inconsistent, and generally demanding than lojban is, but learning a useful vocabulary in any language, no matter how easy in comparison to other languages, is never a small investment. Chris Capel -- "What is it like to be a bat? What is it like to bat a bee? What is it like to be a bee being batted? What is it like to be a batted bee?" -- The Mind's I (Hofstadter, Dennet) To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.