From lojban-out@lojban.org Fri Sep 30 18:08:48 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 77483 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2005 01:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 1 Oct 2005 01:08:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Oct 2005 01:08:47 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ELVom-0007IF-O0 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:05:36 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1ELVnY-0007Hc-Lw; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:04:24 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.52) id 1ELVnD-0007HD-Nm for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:03:59 -0700 Received: from mxsrv1.tranzpeer.net ([202.180.66.214]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA1:24) (Exim 4.52) id 1ELVmy-0007H2-Rz for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 18:03:59 -0700 Received: from [203.184.13.194] (helo=gulik.co.nz) by mxsrv1.tranzpeer.net with ESMTP (Exim 4.34) id 1ELVmn-0000AW-DL for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:03:33 +1200 Message-ID: <433DE0C1.1060301@gulik.co.nz> Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:05:05 +1200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-GB; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040216 Debian/1.6.x.1-10 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10698 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Michael van der Gulik From: Michael van der Gulik Reply-To: mikevdg@gulik.co.nz Subject: [lojban] Re: adverbs to indicate whose standard is used X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=rH9_s38k3o6fFBVMBiuRuGbBjyKbYMhFHMjdP0Je7P6XSt23jA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25083 Matt Arnold wrote: > A friend of mine blogged the following: > > "We need a couple of new adverbs (or maybe I just need to find > existing ones) that indicate whose definition of a word we are using: > our's, our subculture's, or society-at-large's. They need to be simple > enough to insert comfortably into casual conversation; single > syllable, and preferably not syllables that could be mistaken for > other adverbs. How about "du'o", based on djuno? > > Why? > > 1. I'd like to be able to say 'I like foo-bad girls' without > stopping to explain that by foo-bad, I mean girls that > society-at-large labels as bad. In this case, because they are > sexually agressive, but that was implied in the conversation. > mi nelci lo ke cinse gunta ke'e bedu'o la se gubni be'o citni'u I like girls that are, by societies' point of view, sexually aggressive. That is a wild guess by a beginner so it's very likely incorrect. I'm not sure if there is also a way to stick pe'i or jinvi in there attached only to that tanru. Does pe'i have an X2 place determining who has that opinion? Michael. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.