From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Oct 29 17:25:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 66498 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2005 00:25:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.216) by m26.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 30 Oct 2005 00:25:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta1.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Oct 2005 00:25:46 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EW10x-0002MV-Hp for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:25:35 -0700 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EW0zD-0002Kv-HI; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:23:49 -0700 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EW0yu-0002Kk-EY for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:23:28 -0700 Received: from phma.hn.org ([216.189.113.165] helo=blackcat.ixazon.lan) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EW0yt-0002Kc-Cv for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 29 Oct 2005 17:23:28 -0700 Received: by blackcat.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6E972892; Sun, 30 Oct 2005 00:23:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:23:47 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <12d58c160510280915x764d9b8du4ba3f9a68d9742e1@mail.gmail.com> <12d58c160510281413v2a158464maecf719283548606@mail.gmail.com> <925d17560510281429l33f2435er16a241f5a83f88d0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <925d17560510281429l33f2435er16a241f5a83f88d0@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200510292023.47866.phma@phma.hn.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) X-archive-position: 10748 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: phma@phma.hn.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Pierre Abbat From: Pierre Abbat Reply-To: phma@phma.hn.org Subject: [lojban] Re: citri lo glibau X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=O6zMbDCQVqDybL4WqfynCbc3NN5NsTyPXq1zrngyuKUTnXdj_w X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25137 On Friday 28 October 2005 17:29, Jorge Llambías wrote: > Yes. The comma is already optional though. No two words can differ > by a comma. The comma can at most indicate a preferred > pronounciation, but a word with or without the comma is > the same word. At least that's the official rule. This causes > some problems though: Is {stra,i} a valid fu'ivla, for instance? I say {stra,i} is not a valid fu'ivla, but {stra,e} is, because {stra,i} is the same as {strai} which is one syllable, but {strae} has to be pronounced with at least two syllables. I think that strings of three vowels, two adjacent of which are {ii} or {uu}, should be disallowed in brivla, but now that I've seen {BEouulf}, I think this should not apply to cmene. phma To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.