From lojban-out@lojban.org Tue Nov 08 08:11:13 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 60727 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2005 16:11:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.217) by m34.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 8 Nov 2005 16:11:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2005 16:11:11 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EZW0t-0000dS-Kk for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:07:59 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EZVyu-0000cP-1k; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:59 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EZVya-0000cG-TX for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:37 -0800 Received: from sp0135.sc1.cp.net ([64.97.136.135] helo=n066.sc1.cp.net) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EZVyZ-0000c8-JX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:05:36 -0800 Received: from [192.168.10.10] (82.13.21.190) by n066.sc1.cp.net (7.0.038) (authenticated as josephine.shewellbrockway) id 432A19D200C0B195 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Tue, 8 Nov 2005 16:05:25 +0000 Message-ID: <4370CCC3.1010502@virgin.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:05:23 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051011) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <149.51471478.30a20146@wmconnect.com> In-Reply-To: <149.51471478.30a20146@wmconnect.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-archive-position: 10763 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: j.shewellbrockway@virgin.net X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Jessica From: Jessica Reply-To: j.shewellbrockway@virgin.net Subject: [lojban] Re: Lojban translation of English "we" X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=mRiWbkHDq8H139O86Ojh723GOSj3cLRsz4gp4oSe7WYs81ZwRA X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25154 'We' always means one of the following: We, the speakers (mi) We, the speaker(s) and you, the listener(s) (mi'o) We, the speaker(s) and at least one person other than the speaker(s) and listener(s) (mi'a) We, the speaker(s), you the listener(s) and at least one person other than the speaker(s) and listener(s) (ma'a) While the listener may not know which is intended, the speaker does. In your example, "This is our street," you aren't including the listener. This would be rendered into lojban as {.i ti kluji pe mi'a}. Apologies if I have misused {pe}. fe'omi'e JEsikas. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.