From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 16 12:45:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 25577 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2005 20:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Nov 2005 20:45:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2005 20:45:55 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcU7B-0006Kz-OI for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:42:45 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EcU6e-0006KS-7o; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:42:14 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:42:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcU6L-0006K3-Fd for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:41:53 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.204]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EcU6F-0006Jr-OX for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:41:53 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so1529403wra for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.63.20 with SMTP id q20mr2837539qbk; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.110.8 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:41:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 15:41:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <437B97BE.30202@virgin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <55b258c20511161151q31ec15ci56dcd2ed1ff15987@mail.gmail.com> <437B97BE.30202@virgin.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-archive-position: 10789 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: matt.mattarn@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Matt Arnold From: Matt Arnold Reply-To: matt.mattarn@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A ranking system for Lojban speaking proficiency? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=LvcASwZ2fc-zoy7fpYlINaGfunIWxC-CxDMYxPzYRms4R94iSg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25181 On 11/16/05, Jessica wrote: > 'Tis all very well, provided it doesn't take over. I for one would not > use such a system, and I'm sure there are many like me; this doesn't > mean it shouldn't exist, but it should not be allowed to take hold to > the extent that non-participants are excluded from the lojbo community. The problem with this is that if you don't participate, it doesn't allow for a grade curve. The way it's currently proposed, it's a comparitive system, which means in order to give a good rank, it needs participants who speak Lojban worse than others. I would be in favor of straight-up testing of vocabulary and syntax. Rate people against according to the number of answers correct per dozen questions tested, rather than relatively against other speakers. -Matt To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.