From lojban-out@lojban.org Wed Nov 16 12:51:42 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 38361 invoked from network); 16 Nov 2005 20:51:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.172) by m23.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 16 Nov 2005 20:51:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta4.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Nov 2005 20:51:41 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcUFo-0006Sf-FA for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:51:40 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EcUFN-0006S2-8y; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:51:15 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcUF5-0006Rg-Ix for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:50:55 -0800 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EcUF5-0006RZ-6Q for lojban-list@lojban.org; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:50:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:50:55 -0800 Message-ID: <20051116205055.GE23316@chain.digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban-list@lojban.org References: <55b258c20511161151q31ec15ci56dcd2ed1ff15987@mail.gmail.com> <437B97BE.30202@virgin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-archive-position: 10790 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Robin Lee Powell From: Robin Lee Powell Reply-To: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Subject: [lojban] Re: A ranking system for Lojban speaking proficiency? X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=f2Ywl2qJm9IcqQWrsW_FVJdDgKlgBIrxPeIyamr0bmZC_4JaCQ X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25182 On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:41:46PM -0500, Matt Arnold wrote: > On 11/16/05, Jessica wrote: > > 'Tis all very well, provided it doesn't take over. I for one > > would not use such a system, and I'm sure there are many like > > me; this doesn't mean it shouldn't exist, but it should not be > > allowed to take hold to the extent that non-participants are > > excluded from the lojbo community. > > The problem with this is that if you don't participate, it doesn't > allow for a grade curve. Of course it doesn't; if you don't participate, you're not ranked. I wouldn't want it any other way. No-one is proposing that people be forced to participate, or anything of the kind. It's just a fun little toy. > I would be in favor of straight-up testing of vocabulary and > syntax. Rate people against according to the number of answers > correct per dozen questions tested, rather than relatively against > other speakers. That seems reasonable to me, but who's going to write the test? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ *** http://www.lojban.org/ Reason #237 To Learn Lojban: "Homonyms: Their Grate!" Proud Supporter of the Singularity Institute - http://singinst.org/ To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.