From nobody@digitalkingdom.org Fri Dec 30 06:41:05 2005 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:41:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsLQw-0007Xp-KW for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:40:42 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1EsLQu-0007Xf-2x for lojban-list@lojban.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:40:42 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so811888wra for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PlMA+0zmWprkfAROb6Htp6TWGlmOijFHxBjWKNNYeJ25m3v2+H0kXWNcznwPQ2JlNbBGM44BQiXXLLgoWQww4o2JAHB3qCubQaLpKbinSlEtbZ+dh2n/2meMKMRhHulMfDnZi3Lq8PB/v8AFJ++eCv5RXdjN0adwqDTGj/OXu/o= Received: by 10.54.96.2 with SMTP id t2mr8808781wrb; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.68.7 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:40:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512300640n3b55ab8do25f3200f606f50c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:40:38 -0300 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban-list@lojban.org Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question In-Reply-To: <20051229213244.GP4222@chain.digitalkingdom.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050326194416.60028.qmail@web60502.mail.yahoo.com> <537d06d005032705071496f143@mail.gmail.com> <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> <20050327200806.GX10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d175605032715014e381357@mail.gmail.com> <20051229073151.GX5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d17560512291029q7f6a5083t895853d7fa48dfcd@mail.gmail.com> <20051229213244.GP4222@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10983 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-to: lojban-list@lojban.org X-list: lojban-list On 12/29/05, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 03:29:51PM -0300, Jorge Llamb?as wrote: > > ({satci} might also be related, but it has a somewhat odd place > > structure.) > > Yes, I find {satci} quite confusing, but let me try: > > ko zengau le do pu ve skicu lo ka satci ?? ?? > > No idea what in the x2 and x3. I guess "lo se djica be mi" and "lo > ka tcila" ?? Very odd place structure. But then I would ask you {ko zengau lo se djica be do lo ka satci lo se djica be mi} and we risk getting into an infinite loop. :) The x3 of {satci} makes perfect sense to me, it follows the usual lojbanic pattern "x1 is XXXXX in property/aspect x2" found in lots of other words. But the x2 is a mystery, and the worse part is that it gets in the way of the x3, so it can't be easily ignored. mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.