From lojban-out@lojban.org Mon Dec 19 12:12:15 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 12966 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2005 20:12:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m29.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 19 Dec 2005 20:12:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Dec 2005 20:12:14 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EoRMY-0000pN-Ua for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:12:03 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EoRL7-0000F3-6t; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:10:35 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1EoRKh-0000Eu-EV for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:10:07 -0800 Received: from sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no ([129.241.210.67]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.54) id 1EoRKd-0000Dj-S6 for lojban-list@lojban.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:10:07 -0800 Received: from hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no (hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no [129.241.210.68]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by sabre-wulf.nvg.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEC28947A0 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:09:52 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:08:33 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: arj@hagbart.nvg.ntnu.no In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <847037620.20051217094424@mail.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-NVG-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-NVG-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: arj@nvg.org X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10935 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: arj@nvg.org X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: Arnt Richard Johansen From: Arnt Richard Johansen Reply-To: arj@nvg.org Subject: [lojban] Re: Chess-and-Tetris Hypothesis X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=wBm8EjCrQoiQkUD3ZO-U33Y-Mm6NE-DVGI2XgGq89umSP1Dw6g X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25331 On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Jim Carter wrote: > I don't have the references right at hand, but there's a current theory of > linguistics that humans' language processors are innately capable of making > certain distinctions like consonants vs vowels, and recognizing > certain semantic categories like actor vs object. (And many, many more in > each category.) These classifications are ordered by importance to produce > rules of morphology, grammar, etc. But natural languages vary wildly in > the importance ranking; e.g. in Chinese and Lojban words must end in vowels > (or .) and you can't split nonconforming text into words, while in English > the vowel-consonant distinction at word end is at the bottom of the > importance list. I believe that what you are referring to is Optimality theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimality_theory -- Arnt Richard Johansen http://arj.nvg.org/ XP kjennes ... sprengt. Som om noe har eksplodert der. To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.