From lojban-out@lojban.org Thu Dec 29 10:30:56 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 85357 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2005 18:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.166) by m2.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 29 Dec 2005 18:30:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta5.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2005 18:30:55 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Es2Y8-0008Gi-SB for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:30:53 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Es2Xf-0008G8-9I; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:30:25 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Es2XD-0008FX-RM for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:29:55 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.199]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Es2XC-0008FP-1C for lojban-list@lojban.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:29:55 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i24so674854wra for ; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:29:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.20 with SMTP id y20mr8316518wrc; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:29:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.68.7 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:29:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512291029q7f6a5083t895853d7fa48dfcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:29:51 -0300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050326194416.60028.qmail@web60502.mail.yahoo.com> <537d06d005032705071496f143@mail.gmail.com> <20050327180029.GW10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4246F819.6080209@lojban.org> <20050327200806.GX10094@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <925d175605032715014e381357@mail.gmail.com> <20051229073151.GX5289@chain.digitalkingdom.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10969 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: New to Lojban and a question X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=bGYfqQh1iEbgY4054DYCc9I1xeDl3yYbRgeoGhyo1nIXxxCyXg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25367 On 12/29/05, Matt Arnold wrote: > I haven't heard this rant before. Why doesn't steci, or some variation > thereof, work? I don't remember the rant, but maybe what is wanted is: x1 is specific/definite/concrete/focused/precise/clear-cut/distinct in property/aspect x2 as the opposite of: x1 is vague/indefinite/unfocused/ambiguous/fuzzy/nebulous/ unclear/imprecise in property/aspect x2 {tolvrici}/{vrici} might work for these. ({satci} might also be related, but it has a somewhat odd place structure.) mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.