From lojban-out@lojban.org Sat Dec 10 08:14:05 2005 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojban-out@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (qmail 49713 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2005 16:14:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (66.218.66.218) by m30.grp.scd.yahoo.com with QMQP; 10 Dec 2005 16:14:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.81.49.134) by mta3.grp.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Dec 2005 16:14:04 -0000 Received: from lojban-out by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1El7ME-00053L-Ic for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:13:58 -0800 Received: from chain.digitalkingdom.org ([64.81.49.134]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1El7Kj-00052L-5z; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:27 -0800 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list lojban-list); Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from nobody by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 4.54) id 1El7Ka-00052C-HE for lojban-list-real@lojban.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:16 -0800 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.195]) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1El7KY-000524-GM for lojban-list@lojban.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:16 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i22so1121260wra for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.144.3 with SMTP id r3mr5548130wrd; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.126.5 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:12:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <925d17560512100812r4a10f72cg23fe7ecba18ada23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:12:12 -0300 In-Reply-To: <20051210043540.M70816@mail.sksys.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by Ecartis Content-Disposition: inline References: <20051208071730.GY25496@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <4398939A.1090806@lojban.org> <20051209012929.GD2106@chain.digitalkingdom.org> <1E7AC75C-B8B7-4749-ADA5-F5FBF8CC4C44@mac.com> <20051209063110.A51213@mail.sksys.net> <925d17560512091011o29a08690n262cb8cc2eb2437c@mail.gmail.com> <20051210043540.M70816@mail.sksys.net> X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-archive-position: 10863 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Errors-to: lojban-list-bounce@lojban.org X-original-sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-list: lojban-list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) To: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Originating-IP: 64.81.49.134 X-eGroups-Msg-Info: 1:12:0:0 X-eGroups-From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= Reply-To: jjllambias@gmail.com Subject: [lojban] Re: A Proposed Explanation of {gunma} X-Yahoo-Group-Post: member; u=116389790; y=1VnXbptUnWsWeJsc-CKpcw-f-s3qY36CKUVhFkUsS8gTFVTcUg X-Yahoo-Profile: lojban_out X-Yahoo-Message-Num: 25258 On 12/9/05, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > So how to translate "unite!"? {ko se gunma} seems good to me. I think the x1 of gunma is for a single entity while the x2 is for all the constituents of x1 together. Perhaps {ko gumbi'o} or {ko pavbi'o} to show that a change is required, since {ko se gunma} could also mean "stay united!". mu'o mi'e xorxes To unsubscribe from this list, send mail to lojban-list-request@lojban.org with the subject unsubscribe, or go to http://www.lojban.org/lsg2/, or if you're really stuck, send mail to secretary@lojban.org for help.